Monday, 18 January 2010

Crowdfunding: An Idea for a Business

I recently came across a guy named Gijsbert Koren from Netherlands, which introduced this idea of “crowdfunding” to me. He explains:

“Crowdfunding, inspired by crowdsourcing, describes the collective cooperation, attention and trust by people who network and pool their money together (via internet) in order to support efforts initiated by other people or organizations.”

Though his question was more in the direction of what could go wrong, I started thinking about it, and realized this could be made in to a lucrative business.

Mission: To bring together people that want to invest small amounts of money in entrepreneurial firms and entrepreneurs that need early stage funding.

Concept: A webpage with an auction-like system that allows entrepreneurs to post their business together with funding needs, and let small time investors “bid” on pieces of a company. For example an entrepreneur would say what his company was doing, at what stage it was, how much funds it needed, how much of the company it would be willing to give away for that amount and other relevant information. Let’s say he needed $50k and would be willing to give away 30 % of the company, an investor willing to invest $100 would then be able to post a bid for 0,06 % of the company. When and if the entrepreneur reached $50k, the bid (along with the other bids) would get accepted.

Business model
There are many ways to make money on this, some alternatives are:
- 1 % of the money invested or the of ownership of the start-up could be retained by the site
- 1 % of the returns could be retained by the site
- The site could provide services, like board members, to help develop the firms that are invested in
- Books and other relevant material could be sold in a related webshop (it is likely that not only those that use actual the services of the site would visit the site)
- Posting a firm could cost a small amount
- Placing bids could cost let’s say 0,1 % (so $10 out of $10 000 should be bearable)
- If you receive funding it cost 0,1 % of the funds received ($ 50 in the case above)
- Public support?

Marketing
Would you need investors or entrepreneurs first? And how would you reach and recruit them? This is of course a difficult issue, maybe you need some funds? (Can it be crowdfunded?) I’m sure that getting in touch with entrepreneurs should be easy enough, you can use personal contacts with incubators and such, most entrepreneurial districts have emerging technology funds, technology transfer offices and incubators that can point you in the right direction. Investors would maybe have to be reached through some sort of viral marketing? Or would ads in newspapers do for this kind of service?


Problems:
Some issues deserve some attention here, even if I don’t like to consider the problems the first day of a new idea.

How would you avoid scams?
In a small country like Norway it would be possible to only allow entrepreneurs to post after meeting them, and talking to them, a sort of due diligence light. In larger countries, like the US, this would of course be difficult, but maybe you would have to send in some paperwork or letters of recommendation?

How would investors get their returns?
A bid could be posted in a number of ways, the entrepreneur could say that he accepted that people would bid for the company, and get a share of it. That way, the investors would get dividends and profit from a potential exit. The entrepreneur could also chose to look for loans, that way the investors would get their money back at a certain date with the interest that was agreed upon. If there are 500 investors that has invested $100 each and they all have different terms, this could obviously offer some difficulties, this could be solved by the site acting as a proxy. Meaning, the site creates a fund for each entrepreneurial venture that gets funded and the site technically owns the small-investors part of the start-up. The dividends and money from the exit is then paid to the site, which forwards each parties money back to them.

How would the investors get a voice in the company?
If, as suggested in the previous part, the investors are represented by the company, board decisions could be done through a proxy that is the site. By investing through the site you agree that the site, as the technical owner, has a representative on board whose job is to represent the small investors.

But what about taxes?
These laws probably are different between countries, and I’m not an expert. I would however imagine that this would be double taxed, first a tax when the site collects dividends, and then a tax when each investor receives their money.

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10 comments:

  1. "Crowdfunding, inspired by crowdsourcing..."
    Sourcing = Funding resources
    ...or not?

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  2. Crowdsourcing, as I have understood it, is based on the word outsourcing. So it means using the power of the crowds to create something, Wikipedia is a good example of crowdsourcing (although Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia, claims that crowdsourcing is a poor term for Wikipedia, because they don’t use the crowd to make the product, instead that the crowd is allowed to write the encyclopedia is the product).

    Crowdfunding is then, in this context at least, using the power of the crowds to fund something.

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  3. Thanks!
    This is so interesting that I have raised the question:
    startups.com/questions/15565/is-crowd-sourcing-about-outsourcing-or-is-it-about-sourcing-funding

    If yes, then Crowd-Sourcing = Crowd-Funding ?

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  4. This is indeed a really interesting idea. When working on a business plan at school this summer, this was precisely the idea we started out with (just some minor differences). Because of the very difficult legal issues surrounding the idea, especially in the US, we had to change our idea. We just didn't have time to get all the answers. For Europe and others parts of the world I actually have no idea how it could be realized.

    One thing you haven't commented on is the problem of how much information you are willing to give away as an early stage startup. Many companies might want to keep as much information as possible reasonably "under control".

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  5. Yes Kim, I think I vaguely refer to "Due Diligence light" in there. It's definitely a problem that the entrepreneurs might not want to post enough information for real investors to make an informed choice. I also think that non-disclosures between thousands of potential small investors and the entrepreneurs they assess would be pointless. I am however sure that it could be resolved in some way. For example each investor might request additional information electronically where the parties would agree to the terms, or you could say that when you invest less than $1000 you don’t get to know the details.

    You also mention the legalities of it. A very interesting question, in the US for example there are extra scrutiny applied to companies that have above 300 owners, so it might actually be more expensive to crowdfund something, then to go to a few investors, however I imagine that the terms of the investments would be more fair in such a set-up. Also if the site acts as liaison does that mean it’s a stock market or a bank if it stores money or facilitates loans? There are a lot of legal issues, and I think that anyone who wanted to start this business should at least have a lawyer to help set it up. The perfect team would be a computer wizard with experience from interaction design, a lawyer with experience from venture capital and an economist with experience in financial markets.

    Did you find anything interesting this summer on the topic?

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  6. We gave it up early, so we didn't find many answers on that specific idea. We talked to some business angels and lawyers about it. They saw this as an interesting idea, but one with a boatload of legal issues.

    It might actually be quite a lot easier with regards to legal issues to start this company somewhere in Europe. There are also more markets that might need this kind of service in Europe, since there are fewer BA's in most European countries than in the US.

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  8. Hi Vetle,

    You make some good suggestions in your article! And I am very glad I inspired you to look into crowdfunding! I like the idea that the small investors are represented in the boards of the startup companies by someone from the crowdfundingwebsite. In a way this makes the website something like a fundmanager.

    I think combining the old-world concept of stocks have some challenges if combined with the new-world crowdfunding; what if 50 out of 500 investors want their money back? And what does someone care if he makes 100% interest when he only invested 100 dollar; he or she can buy a pair of shoes for 100 dollar, but that's it.... It's not about the big money. I think we need to offer more than an investment opportunity; we need to get people involved and let them work for the startups for free. The startups can crowdsource their marketing and other parts of the company, to the people who have invested in them.

    How does the crowdfunding website earn money? Let's say you will have 10 startups on your platform in the first year.

    A few more assumptions:
    -The costs for developing the platform: 100,000 dollar
    -Average investment needed per startup: 50,000 dollar

    In the best scenario, you take 1% of the investment: 1% x 500,000 = 5,000 dollar. Which isn't going to cover your expenses.

    And don't forget to calculate transaction costs (might as well be 1%)... So how do we solve this?

    Additional options for creating revenue:
    -Services
    -Advertisements (Lawyers, Accountants, etc might want to target the startups and can pay quite some money)

    Or you might want to go for public support. If you don't have any costs for developing the platform, you get all the money into your pocket and can run this platform as an evening job... But I don't think this will work very well..

    Some thoughts on how this need for revenue is solved in comparable situations:

    -On a larger scale: When a company is going public and selling stocks, legal experts will easily charge 20% of the total investment needed. So, to get 500,000,000 dollar in, you will pay 100,000,000 to the service provider, which is a lot!!! Maybe the crowdfunding platform should charge 20% as well??
    -A broker is charging an expat 1 or 2 months rent for getting him a nice appartment in a new city. If the expat stays for a year or two, this means a service fee of 5 to 20%.
    -KIVA does not charge anything (though they ask for a voluntary fee) but their local partners charge around 30%. I really hate this by the way; you provide capital to local banks who earn money from it...

    Well, what is it going to be? Where does the money come in? I don't know yet... and I'm looking for the same answer as you are :)

    Looking forward to your reply!

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  9. Hi Gjisvert,

    Thanks for some constructive input! I agree that the site might act as a fund manager to some extent; I think this is the key concept of governance in the cooperation between the actors. If the interests of both investors and entrepreneurs are to be preserved, it seems to be crucial to regulate this in standardized ways, maintained by the site.

    I also agree that there are a lot of challenges, however I don't think it's a problem that some may want their money back and some not. This is again a question of governance I think. This can be organized beforehand, in the way that the investors and entrepreneurs agree on when and if and under which circumstances the money will be paid out. In venture capital it is often the goal to go for an exit, in this case one might say that the ultimate goal is to receive dividends for perpetuity, or if there is some sort of an exit, then of course the investors receive their share. This can all be agreed upon before the investment is made, obviously some time would be needed to work out the details here, but I absolutely think it's manageable!

    There are a whole many ways the site can make money, in my original post I mention but a few, and I also have a post previously that explains the concept of a business model (http://wegenerate.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-is-business-model-and-why-should.html). In venture capital it is normal for the fund managers to take out a few percent of the fund every year (like 1 - 3 %) and also take a larger percent (like 20 %) of super profits. This is a viable business model for venture capital; however they get their money from investors that enter with considerably larger amounts of money. I think some creative thinking can really make this profitable.

    I agree on your additional options, i even mention some of them in the original post. I am also sure that there are at least 50 unmentioned ways to make money of this, and following my reasoning on business models, "how to make additional revenue" is always one of the first questions you should ask when you have a new idea.

    Does this make sense or did I miss the point?

    Vetle

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